Gap on Consumption – September 4th, 2014, Degrowth Conference, S313

Attendence: 17 People
(clockwise: Felix, Lukas, Corinna, Martin, Dieter, Kathi, Christine, Melani, Anke, Martin, Alex, Karl-Heinz, Christiane, Christopher, Ben, Anne, Dietmar) – Anke is new (welcome!), Kathrin has a flew, good health!



Time Schedule:

17:30-17:35 warming up

17:45-17:45 resume of day 1 + feedback

17:45-17:50 Barcelona

18:06-18:45 stirring paper II

18:45-18:55 stirring paper III

18:40-19:00 consensus for moving forward

warming up:

How you feel about yesterday? 3 words

Resume of day 1 + Feedback from community:

Read all cards from the group session and distribute them in the room by interest

Barcelona:

again put attention on some notes from Barcelona and connect them with our ideas

Paper II: Self-providing as a motor for degrowth

Corinna:

Assumptions:

  • All people move in one direction → growth, degrowth is a different direction.

  • Self provision is the answer to degrowth!

  • Micro level: Changing direction will make people feel more skillfull.

  • Meso level: More resources will be in place.

  • Macro level: systematic change, paradigmic change

Questions:

  • How we can make people change directions?

Action:

  • Academia for sufficiency which tries to provide small containers of sufficiency actions. Spaces where local self sufficiency is practiced.

Discussion:

  • Handshake: Some like the narrative of self sufficiency. / Others don´t see it as a big pathway. / Agreement that on sum goods it might be nice.

  • Anke: Some agree on micro level of self-production will produce self-change, but discussion on macro level results.

  • Dieter: Corina´s research message is it will change the macro level.

  • …: Problem of upscaling to some goods can danger the good narrative.

  • Melani: I thought of auto-archism , which I feel is not a way. But in the discussion about learning and bringing together communities it is useful for.

  • Christiane: Do we need a positive narrative?

Paper III: Where does Responsibility begin and end?

Anke:

Assumptions:

  • Material flow accounting on country level on hidden material flows. E.g. you not only import a good with its materials but also the energy and the waste kept back for production of the good.

  • It is going to become a indicator using GDP methods and aiming for being at such a status.

  • EU lines out such initiatives to be fruitful.

Questions:

  • What can the individual consumer be held responsibility for? There are boundaries of making people accountable for it.

Action:

  • Research on an new indicator.

Discussions

  • Responsibility is related also to social impacts. / We focus on environmental impact.

  • Pricing is not the point, but putting awareness.

  • What is it for? / Data helps to see my responsibility. Or at least

  • Internalization? Is it a product footprint?/ Yes it is a footprint system. Global North is supposed to dematerialize. The indicator may help doing it. But no internalization.

  • How is it related to eco-labeling?/ Life-cycle analysis and eco-labeling, yes! Footprint differently tries to deeper back track the resource need.

Consensus for moving on tomorrow:

  • we stop for now

  • we want to rate and cluster proposals in the room

  • we narrow it down tomorrow on 3-4

  • we cluster today

  • we prioritize the clusters

 

Pictures from the last GAP session, see Attachments.